In Uganda, if a man has sex with another man, he faces life imprisonment or even might be put to death. If you know a gay person and don't report him or her to the authorities, you can also be imprisoned. That will be the case if a new proposed law is passed...

I first heard about this on NPR and Human Rights Watch. It's now popping up on other sites.

This law has the blessing of both Christian and Muslim leaders: "The Rev. Esau Omara, a senior church leader, said over the weekend that any lawmaker opposing the bill will pay for it during the next election, according to local newspaper reports. And a leading Muslim cleric, Sheikh Ramathan Shaban Mubajje, has called for gays to be rounded up and banished to an island until they die."

According to Human Rights Watch, "This new draft bill includes a provision that could lead to the imprisonment for up to three years of anyone, including heterosexual people, who fails to report within 24 hours the identities of everyone they know who is lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender, or who supports human rights for people who are." So you don't even have to be gay to be imprisoned; all you have to do is fail to snitch on anyone you know is gay -- for instance, if you're the father or mother of a gay person. Heck, all you have to do is say you support gay rights.

The bill was put forward by David Bahati, an MP in Uganda. He is a member of the College of Prayer International, based in Lilburn, Georgia here in the USA. According to their website, the College of Prayer International is "...a ministry of the Revival Prayer Institute, Inc. established to mentor Christian leaders who will reach a lost world through a revived church. We are a faith ministry organized exclusively for the purpose of mentoring and encouraging pastors, wives, Christian leaders, missionaries, intercessors - all who desire to more effectively impact their world through fervent revival prayer, prayer evangelism, intercession, and worship." Revival Prayer Institute, Inc. (RPI), is a non-profit organization with 501(c)(3) exemption. Here is their Board of Directors, if you'd like to look into the faces of those who don't seem to have understood the message of the person after whom their faith is named.

I wonder if legislation such as Uganda is considering also happens to be part the vision that these far right Christians have for an ideal America?
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From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com

Re: this is terrifying


Not 'sponsoring' it, but certainly condoning it, since apparently one of their members is the catalyst for the legislation and they're saying nothing.

From: [identity profile] sethb.livejournal.com

Re: this is terrifying


There are any number of "American" (that is, un-American but located in the US) churches that agree with it.

The only thing that Christianity and the Christian Right have in common is a lot of letters in their names.

From: [identity profile] lizziebelle.livejournal.com


Wow. Just when you think we're making great strides, something like this hurtles us back into the middle ages.

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


To me, it's a reminder that intolerance is a human trait that is nowhere near eradicated, and blooms wherever it is given a chance.

From: [identity profile] lexcade.livejournal.com


this is sickening. i'm a Christian (sort of, as in i believe in Jesus, God, and the saving grace of both), and i have several homosexual friends. this is sad and sick, and it makes me fear for my friends if EVER something like this tries to take root in America. people, especially the holier than thou Christians, seem to forget that God's love encompasses EVERYONE and that no one is "good enough" for it. but this goes back to that verse in the Bible that discusses the people who cry out "Lord! Lord!" and Christ doesn't take them because they're hypocrites.

i would love to know what God's thinking about all this. all these "Christians" are doing is pushing people farther away from the God they're trying to bring them toward.

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


As someone who believes in no god at all, it's another reminder that religion is far too often used as a cloak for violent intolerance.

From: [identity profile] rmeidaking.livejournal.com


The entire Judeo-Christian-Islamic mythos is founded on heterosexual male supremacy. Anything that threatens that image threatens their very foundations. In our current Age of Extremism, this sort of attempt to push religious law into secular law has to be expected.

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


"The entire Judeo-Christian-Islamic mythos is founded on heterosexual male supremacy" Yes, for the Old Testament, and yes for the Koran. Not quite so much in the New Testament, but still largely true. For some of the apocryphal gospels such as those from Nag Hammadi (the "Gnostic Gospels") not really at all -- but those didn't make the historical cut.

The problem with both the Bible and the Koran is that you can find text to support damned near any position you care to take -- so the extremists can always point to the holy book and claim to be following its precepts.

From: [identity profile] magik-sometimes.livejournal.com


I recommend these 2 interviews on NPR with Jeff Sharlet, the author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power" (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0060560053/)

July 1, 2009 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106115324)
November 24, 2009 (http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=120746516)

My understanding is that "The Family" is a D.C. power group that directly engineered the law in Uganda. They fund international intervention in other countries political arenas to advance, internationally, their fundamentalist xtian agenda.

I find these people to be very scary.

Here is an excerpt from the first interview:

"... a secretive Christian group known as the Family, or the Fellowship.

Founded in 1935 in opposition to FDR's New Deal, the evangelical group's views on religion and politics are so singular that some other Christian-right organizations consider them heretical

The group also has a connection to a house in Washington, D.C., known as C Street. Owned by a foundation affiliated with the Family, C Street is officially registered as a church; in practice, it serves as a meeting place and residence for politicians like South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Nevada Sen. John Ensign and Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn."


Here is an excerpt from the second interview:

"The Family is also connected to proposed anti-gay legislation in Uganda that could sentence, quote, repeat offenders to the death penalty. That family connection is revealed in new reporting by my guest, Jeff Sharlet. Sharlet is the author of the bestseller "The Family" and is a contributing editor for Harper's. He's been investigating The Family for years."

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


I heard the last of the NPR interviews; in fact, the link attached to David Bahiti's name in the post points to that NPR interview. I have a strong skeptical streak when it comes to conspiracy theories, however, and the idea of "The Family" sets it off. Sounded too much like a Dan Brown novel.

From: [identity profile] magik-sometimes.livejournal.com


Reading his book "The Family:... (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0060560053/) might change your mind. I know that the Chicago Public Library has it. "The Family" is not a name that he made up... it is what they call themselves. This is well researched journalism, with citations and multiple sources. I would very much like to hear what you think about it if you get around to reading it.

From: [identity profile] barbarienne.livejournal.com


I wonder if legislation such as Uganda is considering also happens to be part the vision that these far right Christians have for an ideal America?

-->I assume this is a rhetorical question, as the answer is "Well DUH yes!"

And yet if people proposed to round up all religious nutbags and exile them, it would be called prejudice.

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


Rhetorical, yes. :-) And I've no inclination to round up the religious wingnuts and exile them. Let 'em talk and expose their madness. Just don't allow them to legislate their prejudices and irrationalities and bigotry into law.

From: [identity profile] barbarienne.livejournal.com


Unfortunately they do talk and expose their madness, and yet...people seem not to notice that it's madness. The inmates are running the asylum!
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