I was pointed to this by [livejournal.com profile] magik_sometimes. A TED talk by Jonathan Haidt that looks at the inherent differences in mindset between liberals and conservatives. Fascinating! And, I think, largely on the mark.

And especially, perhaps strangely, on the mark for writers. I found myself thinking about the portrayal of fictional characters as I listened to this. Haidt says that one thing you must keep in mind if you wish to change the mind of someone from an opposing point of view is that you can't go in with the "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude. You must understand that the other person believes they are right.

When writing believable characters, that's exactly what the writer should keep in mind -- if you don't want your work to fall in polemic, or to be your cliché 'black vs. white, good vs. evil" dichtomy. Every character believes he or she is right, that he or she is doing good, that he or she is on the correct side of the issue. In their mind, even the horrible despotic and vicious leader who is the antogonist of the story believes that he is doing what he must do for the good of his country. He is not evil; he is, in his worldview, morally correct.

And that is how you, as the writer, should portray him: as someone who believes he is doing right, even as your protagonist is valiantly fighting against him... for the "evil despot,' if you allow yourself to be in his point of view, believes that the valiant young woman who is the hero of your story is the one who is morally corrupt, the one who cannot see that order has its costs, that the destruction of that order will inevitably cause things to be worse for nearly everyone, and so on. To the despot, she is the one who is on the 'wrong' side.

There are no (or very, very few) black and white characters in life. Nearly all of us contain shades of gray -- and those shades shift if we look at people through the eyes of the 'other side'.

The same should be true in fiction.

From: [identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com


I'd like to suggest an additional perspective, which I've been working with a lot. The "explanations" of Right/Wrong, Good/Bad are often rationalizations for the underlying emotional tendencies.
An awful lot of people can't tell when they're being emotional and when they're being rational.
(This isn't about which is better (neither better, both necessary), it's about clarity.)

Neil's epigram:
"Some people call their emotional fixations religion,
some people call thrie emotional fixations politics,
some people call their emotional fixations economics."

From: [identity profile] spaceoperadiva.livejournal.com


What people think is proper characterization seems to be dependent upon their place on the liberal/conservative spectrum. I have a conservative writing friend who is very astute with critiques, but she really hates that I have ambiguous characters. She wants her good guys in white hats. and the antagonists wrong because they are Evil.

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


Now that's a very interesting observation... Hmm... Anyone else have similar observations/experiences?

From: [identity profile] greenmtnboy18.livejournal.com


My only observation on that is that I think it fits with JH's theories.

I'm not sure in my experience if the individuals who prefer white hats/black hats are more conservative. I'll have to think about it. Most of the people I know prefer ambiguous characters.

Well, maybe that's an indication right there. ;)

From: [identity profile] greenmtnboy18.livejournal.com


oh goody! Is this a talk? I loved the JH article you pointed out months ago during the elections, and since I read it I've been shoving JH on EVERYONE right and left. (Er... everyone everywhere, that is. Not people up and down the political spectrum.)

Now I can point people who haven't read the article to this, if it's a vid.

From: [identity profile] ontology101.livejournal.com


One of my favorite book club questions: What did you find redeeming about the antagonist? In the best books we have read we can discuss this for an hour or more. If the question falls flat I can usually pick up the "nobody really cared for this book" current. Ambiguity is good.

A.



From: [identity profile] wbm.livejournal.com


When I write, I general have all my characters acting & speaking from self-interest, whether it be morally good, bad or between.

This post is a great addition to my perspective as a writer & invaluable to novices (not that I'm not a novice *smirk*).
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