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([personal profile] sleigh Sep. 26th, 2008 09:40 am)
When McCain picked Palin as his running mate, and especially after her barn-burning speech to the heart of the Republican base at the convention, I was worried that this might have been a brilliant choice on the part of McCain. If he wins the election, her pick may still be pointed to as one of the best gambles in political history. But as I despaired, my good friend and fellow author (go buy his book!) [livejournal.com profile] davidbcoe remained less pessimistic. "She has plenty of time to implode," was his basic message to me.

I'm beginning to sense that David may well have been correct. I watched the Couric interview with Palin (the parts that have aired thus far) and it's apparent to me that while Palin can do a wonderful job of reading a prepared speech, she 1) doesn't have anywhere near the breadth and depth of knowledge for the job she's applying for, and 2) she isn't very good at speaking extemporaneously.

From the domestic policy interview:

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.


From the foreign policy segment:

Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.

Couric: Mocked?

Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.

Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.

Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…

Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.


I have -- literally -- heard high school debaters who were more knowledgeable on their subject and who could speak far better. She may even be able to vault the high bar of Veep incompetence set by Dan Quayle.

This makes me think that Biden will have an even harder time in the debate not sounding condescending toward her -- he'll need to watch that. In the debate, in all likelihood, Palin will be spouting memorized speechlets and not speaking off-the-cuff, but if the moderator manages to nudge her off her memorized track, I don't know where she'll end up.

David, I'm thinking I'm beginning to share your optimism, my friend!

From: [identity profile] ebenstone.livejournal.com


She's scarier than McCain is sometimes. And she certainly makes Quayle look like an Oxford scholar!

From: [identity profile] shsilver.livejournal.com


Just to add to your pessimism...How would George Bush have fared in those same situations? And he certainly didn't win the election.

From: [identity profile] merriehaskell.livejournal.com


I've interviewed people who give similarly vague answers to "Tell me about a time when you enforced a library policy you disagreed with" or "What was your most difficult customer service moment? How was the situation resolved?", Who will literally dance their pants off around the question because they can't come up with an example, and don't want to say they can't. OR they don't have an example, which of course shows they don't have the experience I want.

Would not hire. Ineffective communicator, resume may have been overblown, and obviously inexperienced.

From: [identity profile] octoberdreaming.livejournal.com


Further proof of what I've been saying all along - Sarah Palin is a Cylon! :O She can only say what she's been programmed to say, and even the rest of the Cylons fear and loathe her and have cut her off from The Great Link or whatever the heck they call their network!

(No, seriously. Palin is scary.)

From: [identity profile] lindajdunn.livejournal.com

Palin vs Quayle


If they are elected, Palin will greatly outdo Quayle, imho.

Both Jerry Pournelle and Arlan Andrews (respected SF writers with science backgrounds) have had opportunities to meet with and work with Dan Quayle and both speak well of him. In Arlan's case, he told me personally that Quayle was a very intellingent person who should never be allowed near reporters.

I think Palin is Dan Quayle in a dress, minus the brains.

From: [identity profile] markiv1111.livejournal.com

And while we're talking politics:


A case could be made for this being a personal e-mail, but I expect there are numerous friends of yours (and people I am not hostile with either) who also live in Ohio. My stepson (jamestrainor on LJ) has just posted a very interesting post on election fraud in Ohio. It is not "friends locked." I do not know how to initiate the kind of cross-posting I would like, but I would be very interested in seeing my Ohio friends, and in particular those whom I already know to be very knowledgeable politically, respond to this. Can you help?

Nate

From: (Anonymous)

Re: And while we're talking politics:


You might want to look at a somewhat more balanced story on this in that liberal bastion, The Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122125136545029511-email.html

Joel Zakem

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com

Re: And while we're talking politics:


Wow, Nate, your stepson's post is rather, umm, vitrolic. And factually wrong in many respects, as far as I can see.

Ohio voters have been permitted to register and vote simultaneously for 25 years -- most of those under Republican administrations, by the way. The current Ohio Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner has thus allowed newly-registered voters to cast an absentee ballot immediately, if they wish. The Republicans have filed suit against Brunner, because (they claim) Ohio law actually requires a person to register 30 days before they can vote. Brunner has replied that under federal law, “an absentee ballot is considered to have been voted on Election Day–not on the day the ballot is filled out or returned to the board of elections" and therefore there's no issue at all.

The real issue, of course, is that Obama's campaign has brought out lots of newly-registered Democratic voters, and the Republicans don't like that.

There's a second lawsuit, as well. The McCain campaign sent out literally thousands of requests for absentee ballots to their voters. There's a box that the voter is supposed to check, acknowledging that they are a registered voter. Evidently, the McCain campaign's instructions were confusing enough that many of the respondents neglected to check that box. Since the required box wasn't checked, the Secretary's office wouldn't send out the absentee ballots. The Republicans have filed suit saying that the requests should be processed anyway.

It should be pointed out that Brunner is enforcing elections laws enacted by a Republican State Senate and signed into law by Robt. Taft, the previous (Republican) governor of Ohio.

You can find information here (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/22/fight-heats-up-in-ohio-over-voting-procedures/) or here (http://www.progressohio.org/page/community/post/daveharding/CH5k)

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com

Re: And while we're talking politics:


Nate -- some follow-up on this: Today, the Ohio Supreme Court as well as Federal Judge James Gwin weighed in on the Republican lawsuit. Both said that Secretary of State Brunner has acted correctly. So the "register and vote right away" ruling stands.

It should be noted, incidently, that the current Ohio Supreme Court is composed entirely of Republican judges -- who have just said that the Republican lawsuit has no merit.

Here's a quote from Federal Judge Gwin: "Candidly, the underlying merits of the issues are not even close. With regard to the interpretation of Ohio law, Defendant Brunner obviously determined the issue correctly." And: "[the Republican position] would lead to illogical results, potentially disenfranchising large numbers of voters."

Here's the Cleveland Plain Dealer's article: http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/09/judge_high_court_say_new_voter.html

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com

Re: And while we're talking politics:


Nate -- and yet more follow-up. While the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled in the first lawsuit that the simultaneous registration-and-vote policy was perfectly legal (several other states allow that also, by the way), yesterday they did rule in the other lawsuit, and came down on the side of the Republicans. They said that the checkbox that the McCain camp added to the request for absentee ballots did not need to be checked, and absentee ballots should be sent out to those who sent in requests without checking the box. Secretary of State Brunner had said that the box was totally unnecessary, but because the McCain campaign added it, the procedure had to be followed.

So both lawsuits have now been settled: one for, one against.

From: [identity profile] spenceraloysius.livejournal.com


The McCain campaign has also been hiding Palin from the press, even Alaskan reporters. From CNN,
" Michael Carey, a columnist for the Anchorage Daily News who has been covering Palin for two years, said things have changed since she became the VP nominee.

"She had a good relationship with the press here. Reporters got access to her when they needed to," he said. "The Anchorage Daily News has not talked to her since August 30, and we're the hometown newspaper. That ought to tell you something."


I would agree with CNN's assessment that the McCain campaign doesn't think she's ready to answer hard questions.
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From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


Actually, that was directly cut-and-pasted from the CBS transcript... :-)

From: [identity profile] smofbabe.livejournal.com


While searching for another link to the Alaska/Russia clip as the first one I posted didn't work for some people, I came across this one, which slightly shortens Palin's answer in order to show it back-to-back in the same video with the infamous clip of Miss Teen South Carolina's airhead answer to why she thinks one fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TL8RLiVFh4

There's also a rumor that senior McCain officials helping her prepare for the VP debate are freaking out at how clueless she is, but I've only seen it from one source: http://www.wegoted.com/

And I assume you've already seen that Kathleen Parker of The National Review, a former Palin supporter, is now saying that for the good of the party and the nation, she should withdraw her candidacy: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=
Edited Date: 2008-09-27 11:02 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com


I did see the Parker column (first in the Washington Post, and then reproduced in our local paper). Amazing. Parker is as conservative as I am liberal, and yet she's saying that Palin needs to take herself out of the campaign. Wow.

Won't happen, though. It would be seen as a disastrous indication of McCain's judgment. No matter what excuse Palin would give as a reason to resign the nomination, everyone would know it's because she's not qualified.

Could be an interesting debate, if they can get her off the sequence of two-minute memorized speeches she's going give as her responses. Then again, you never know what Biden is going to say, either... :-)

From: [identity profile] smofbabe.livejournal.com


Won't happen, though. It would be seen as a disastrous indication of McCain's judgment. No matter what excuse Palin would give as a reason to resign the nomination, everyone would know it's because she's not qualified.

True, but I think that the people who aren't going to vote for him because he picked someone unqualified aren't going to change their minds about that whether he jettisons her or keeps her. If she resigns and he picks someone more qualified, he could pick up some votes from people who are seriously worried about her being VP and possibly P.

I agree with you that it's a very unlikely scenario, though.

Could be an interesting debate, if they can get her off the sequence of two-minute memorized speeches she's going give as her responses.

I do hope you caught the second Tina Fey SNL skit this week. It's even better than last week's and does a great take-off on her answer about Russia in the real Couric interview: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-k_n_129956.html

Then again, you never know what Biden is going to say, either... :-)

Poor Biden. Not only does he have to be careful about what he says for its own sake but he also has to walk a very thin line between not appearing to bully her and not appearing to condescend to her.
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