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sleigh ([personal profile] sleigh) wrote2008-09-05 08:58 am

Why I'll be voting for a Democrat

Not in any particular order:

...Because I believe that religion should be kept firmly and completely separate from government and all governmental decisions.
...Because I believe that Science, not Mythology, should be taught in Science classes.
...Because I believe that Sex Ed means educating children about all aspects of sexual behavior, how to behave responsibly in that arena, and how avoid consequences for such.
...Because I believe that if two adults love each other and wish to marry, they should be able to do so, regardless of their genders
...Because I believe that a woman should have the right to choose.
...Because I believe that the Federal Budget should be balanced, and, hey, while the Republicans talk about that all the time, the only time it's actually happened in my lifetime has been under a Democratic president.
...Because I believe that our tax structure should be more fairly balanced (frankly, I [EDITED VERSION] once found the idea of a flat tax regardless of income level to be very interesting, but now I'm not so certain...).
...Because I believe that it's best to be talking to your enemies, not simply threatening them.
...Because I believe that it's better to have a Supreme Court who will err on the side of granting too many freedoms to citizens rather than curtailing those we have.
...Because I believe that oil is finite while wind and sun are not, and that drilling for more oil (and thus handing more profits to the already obscene profits of the oil companies) isn't the answer.
...Because I believe that the science (oops, there's that word again) on Global Climate Change is rather compelling, and that we need to act quickly to offset its effects.

I'm sure I'll think of other reasons, but those will do for the moment. With a Republican administration, exactly none of the above will likely be true.

What are your reasons for voting the way you'll vote?

[identity profile] rmeidaking.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
....Because at this point, I would vote for a Pet Rock rather than a Republican rubber stamp. At least the Democrats would tack and sail off in another direction. Sadly, I do think we'll still be headed down a strange path, but it will be a DIFFERENT strange path.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Pet Rocks change only very slowly. :-)

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[identity profile] scbutler.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
All of the above, plus I believe that tax policies should be more progressive, not less. (Unearned income taxed at a lower level than earned income?)
Also, I've always thought that a flat tax is incredibly regressive, not liberal, unless you complicate the system with credits for those with lower incomes. Why else would Steve Forbes be for it?

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm not sure 'liberal' is the right adjective to paste onto flat tax, but...

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[identity profile] daedala.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
...Because I do not believe in perfect safety, and think there are much better things to do than to pretend to try for it.

[identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, good one!

[identity profile] daedala.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
...Because I believe torture is wrong and ineffective.
...Because I believe due process is a right, not a privilege

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[identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You've pretty much covered it.

I'd probably change "Global Warming" to "Global Climate Change" so people would stop saying, in the middle of a Northern winter, "So where's this global warming?"

I might add, "Because the last 8 years have been an unmitigated disaster and the only viable alternative to voting Democratic is to vote for someone who will continue the same."

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
In fact, I'll go make that change right now -- good editing!

[identity profile] celticmom1967.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with everything you have stated above. I have been a registered Republican and even worked as a legislative aide for an OH Republican State Rep for a few years. I have evolved in my political and religious views over the last several years and as I have gotten older, I realize that tolerance and compassion are more valuable than might and security. No matter how much money we spend we will never be "secure" in our freedom from attack because that is the way life is. If we are not attacked from outside our country, there will be attacks inside. I believe we CAN minimize the attacks on both fronts if we show the world we can be both strong and tolerant. Maybe I am naive, but I think the world would be better place overall if we helped others achieve their dreams rather than squelching them, showed more love than hate and offered assistance when people are in need rather than telling them to buck it up.

Thanks for putting these thoughts down. You have given me much to ponder today.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You're very welcome...

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[identity profile] controuble.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I like and agree with your list and what the other commenters have had to say so far.
I usually try to avoid paying attention to politics because it just makes me want to barf. It usually comes down to picking the lesser of the evils (which I think is just wrong.) This year, I see a huge gulf between the two sides that it's easy to vote.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a huge gulf last time, too, but I ended up on the losing side of it. :-)

[identity profile] 90-percent-sure.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm voting straight GOP ticket because when the delegates started chanting "drill baby drill", well, I got all teary eyed.

Also, the press has been very unfair to Gov. Palin. She is an amazing woman who sold a plane on ebay. Also, she's hot!



[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] lizziebelle.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you've put it very well! Plus, the Democrats aren't smug and sarcastic. *g*

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... in fairness sometimes they can be, though it usually comes back to bite them in the ass. But Obama doesn't appear to be so.

[identity profile] ellameena.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Flat tax is the conservative holy grail.

I'm disappointed that the concerns of the extremely poor, disabled, and mentally ill seem to have become obsolete in American politics. When I was younger, there was dialogue about the poor, but now everyone seems to have noticed they don't vote.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I do find the idea of a flat tax worth considering, as I said. I don't know how the figures would add up, but it seems to me that if everyone, regardless of income, paid a simple percentage of income as tax, that it would be equitable for all. Maybe you can add a lower limit for income, below which you'd pay no tax at all -- but not an upper one. Don't know if it's the conservative Holy Grail or not (any mention of it was notably absent from the Republican platform), or whether it's more a libertarian idea. I just find it an interesting concept -- but don't know enough about the economics of it to know if in the end I could support the idea.

I'd agree with you that the poor are too often ignored -- though I would say that the Democrats seem to notice them more than the Republicans, at least in my opinion.

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[identity profile] chasophonic.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Because I believe facts should guide policy.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll applaud that one!

[identity profile] 2d00r.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a question I've been worrying over for some time, that falls along these lines.

Do you feel that it's impossible for a person of elected office to have a personal belief that doesn't slosh over on their ability to do the job they have or wish to attain?


[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's a very interesting and very valid question. To some degree, I think most people -- being human -- will try to make the facts fit their worldview. But sometimes the facts simply don't allow enough flexibility to do that, and in that situation, is the person willing to say "I was wrong, and I've changed my mind"?

This has always bothered me about the uproar about someone "flip-flopping" -- how many of us have changed our mind about something in our lives? I certainly have. To me, the ability to admit one is wrong when the facts contradict your stand and to say so is an asset, not a liability.
Edited 2008-09-05 16:13 (UTC)

[identity profile] piratejenny.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you've pretty much covered them.

Oh, wait. One more. I find far more hypocrisy in the Republican party (if you haven't seen Wednesday's Daily Show, there are some great examples there).

[identity profile] almsthvn.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
because I believe the Democratic candidate is far more willing to surround himself with good people with diverse experiences and openly entertain their ideas.

btw - are we the only 2 in the Cinci area to feel this way? lt felt like it last time...
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[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, we're not the only two. Heck, Denise feels the same way, and lots of other people I know.

But by and large, yep, we're the minority hereabouts! :-)

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[identity profile] greenmtnboy18.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll vote Democrat because we don't have a viable third party to the left of the Democrats.

The Democrats are at the very least less inclined to create/exacerbate an overwhelming climate of hatred and fear, or make egregiously horrible statements on a daily basis that send a strong message of approval of that hatred.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I sometimes think I'm further to the left than most Democrats, also -- which is why I don't call myself a Democrat.

[identity profile] erikted.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm voting Obama/Biden. And now that Palin is trying to revive the culture wars, I am probably also going back to giving him money and volunteering. I stopped after he caved on FISA and redirected political donations to the ACLU. But the possibility of her a 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency...well, it's motivating, to say the least.

I agree with your whole list, but I have to quibble a little:

...Because I believe that religion should be kept firmly and completely separate from government and all governmental decisions.
Regrettably, I don't think Obama's supposed for faith-based initiatives is as clear cut on this point as it needs to be.

...Because I believe that if two adults love each other and wish to marry, they should be able to do so, regardless of their genders
Also not something we get from Obama. Though I trust he won't sell my folk out as badly as Clinton did. Remember who gave us DADT and so-called DOMA?

What are your reasons for voting the way you'll vote?
...because I believe in a balance of power, and at least trust that Obama-Biden won't extend the abusive power grab of the executive much further.

...because I know how much the "Global Gag Rule" costs around the world in damaged and lost lives.

...because PEPFAR wastes billions on scientific void "abstinence only" programs and fuels evangelism in developing countries, when that money could be used for actual good.

...because I believe people with HIV should be allowed to freely visit the USA.

...because I believe that we are a nation of immigrants, and welcoming others to our borders enriches us all.

...because I've been a member of a labor union, and support organized labor.

...because I believe strongly in single-payer universal health care (although we won't get that under Obama).

...because I believe that Liberty and Freedom deserve precedence of Fear and Terror.

...because I believe "War on XXXX" be it drugs or terror is a doomed strategy.

...because I believe that needle-exchange programs save lives, that marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol, and that drug policy should be based on sound evidence, not prohibition morality.

Opps, that's getting long ... but thanks for prompting me to think about it....

[identity profile] alces2.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I like all of the reasons. Did anyone mention not liking banning books or trying to fire the librarian who doesn't want the mayor to ban books? Of course, I don't like the moose hunting. I also really don't like hunting and shooting wolves and bear from planes, taking bears from the endangered species list because it is good for Big Oil.

[identity profile] chippedpolish.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you. i'm glad that someone else is paying attention to the slaughter-fest wolves and bears are enduring.

This clip sounds about right...

[identity profile] pensive495.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

[identity profile] alces2.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
Have you seen cartoons by Peter Brookes (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/cartoon/)? It seems he does political cartoons in the UK but most of the ones on this page are about McCain and Palin. I particularly like the moose one - Be Afraid.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Cute!

[identity profile] chippedpolish.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
hi prof leigh. it's cate from your novel class. i wanted to put my 2 cents in, too.

i'm voting for obama for a lot of reasons, most of which you covered. my other reasons are because mccain is likely going to die within the first term, leaving us sarah palin as president. she has a pretty limited political background, and considering she governs ALASKA, i don't have much faith in her abilities to lead the lower 48 states, an island state, and other territories. after all, alaskans are paid to live there.

i'm voting for obama because he has made it more than obvious that he has actually THOUGHT about our current struggles and because he has made a PLAN to actually address and potentially overcome those struggles.

he also has joe biden, who has a distinguished political career and has contrbuted more to helping america than mccain and palin combined.

and to be honest, sarah palin has been on my bad side for months because of what she's doing to the environment in alaska. i've looked into alaska's laws concerning hunting and i don't like what i've found. she's literally allowing hunters to massacre wolves, bears, wolverines, and other perdators that are trying to survive and live their lives on the animals that these hunters only shoot for sport. the liscence fees are disgusting. wolves are $50 a head while sport animals like rams can cost up to $450 a head. it's disgusting. if she gets her manicured pit bull claws into the white house, it's only going to be more of the same for endangered gray wolves in idaho, wyoming, and montana, as well as dolphins and the wildlife refuge in alaska because she'll promote drilling off-shore and in the refuge. that is wrong because it'll result in destroying delicate ecosystems that we need and it will only prolong the inevitable. destroying ecosystems won't reverse any sort of climate change; it'll only make it worse. biden, though, has plans for conservation. he's already done a lot of conservation work in delaware, and i feel that with him in the white house, that work will spread out across the nation.

obama-biden isn't going to be bush-cheney III. mcclain-palin will be.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-09-09 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, Cate! Thanks for the two cents. You're right; Palin's environmental record isn't pretty...