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sleigh ([personal profile] sleigh) wrote2008-01-09 08:08 am

I Think I'm In Love...

Oh, I'd had 'relationships' beforehand: with black pens, almost exclusively, sometimes plain Bics and the occasional fling with a fountain pen. Then there were typewriters with whom I shacked up for a time: the Smith-Corona 2001, the IBM Selectric -- but I knew all along that I wouldn't stay faithful to them because I never really enjoyed our intercourse. I did it because I had to do it...

Then I threw them all over for the world of computers, and I realized that there were better ways to fling words at paper. My first affair there was with MacWrite, but I abandoned her quickly for the allure of the powerful: Microsoft Word. Her, I married... because I was certain that I had found the love of my life.

The two of us were married for a long time. A couple decades. I think there was genuine love between us back in those early years -- a joy in producing work together: of weaving words, of cutting and pasting, of spellchecking. But Ms. Word... well, like many of us, as time went on, she lost her figure. She became... bloated. She started taking interest in things that had nothing to do with me. She started lecturing me, she started offering to help me when I didn't need help. She wanted to be more than my word processor. I tolerated it for a long time -- all her expensive 'updates' and makeovers, all of her changes.

But I was slowly falling out of love with her, and by the end -- a few years ago -- I was only tolerating her, afraid to leave but not enjoying my time with her and thinking about how nice it might be to leave her behind to seek our own ways. I confess that I started seeing other word processors behind her back: Mellel, Mariner Write, Appleworks, Pages, TextEdit, AbiWord, Nisus...

Ah, Nisus... She was -- and still is -- a beauty. She felt good. She was young and lithe, she seemed to know just what I wanted in a word processor. She was affordable. I took the plunge: I left Ms. Word and I went to Nisus, and she took me in. And we were happy -- things were like I remembered them, long ago. Novels came, and short stories. We talked of marriage and commitment.

But... I had been hearing about this other program for a time. Whispers in conversations about something.... different. A few friends were using her, this stranger: Scrivener. And I listened to them raving about her, and I wondered. I even downloaded her once and played with her furtively on my computer while Nisus wasn't running. I found her intriguing, but I never really went beyond a few quick kisses and fondlings. We never quite became intimate, and after a few days, I deleted her, thinking "No, I shouldn't do this. Nisus is good to me..."

But I kept hearing her name, now and again. And when another person I know mentioned her and sang her praises, I was intrigued again, and downloaded her once more and loaded in the current work-in-progress and really tried her. And all through the process I was saying "Wow!" and "This is neat" and "Yes!"

I realized that I had gone to Nisus because she was familiar: she reminded me of when Ms. Word had been young and vital. But Scrivener.... Scrivener was something else entirely. She would be whatever I wanted her to be. She was interested in what I was doing; she thought the way I did.

Right now, I'm in that wonderful honeymoon of a new relationship. We're still discovering things about each other -- wonderful things, for the most part -- and learning how we each fit together. I haven't yet come across those flaws that at first seem endearing but later turn into skin-flaying irritations. But...

I'm thinking right now that perhaps she's the One. And it's a good feeling.

do you think....

[identity profile] parrismcb.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
we could get George to try it for a while? HIs old Ms. Wordstar is pretty long in the tooth, yet he clings to the old 'ware because he's never found a WP program that did just what he wanted to do and no more - and every time h'es forced to even convert a file to Word he screams in pain and misery. Most WP programs keep trying to tell him that 'Westeros' and 'Tyrion' aren't words. Of course they are, George made them up all by hisself!

Hope it's along and happy relationship for you.

Re: do you think....

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, to try it, you'd have to get George onto a Macintosh... which strikes me as "not likely."

As to the "long and happy," well, we'll see. I can be fickle when it comes to software! :-)

Re: do you think....

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Do they have any plans to release a Windows version? Mac-only seems to be a far smaller market than optimal.

B

Re: do you think....

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
No plans whatsoever. Scrivener was put together by a programmer/writer because he wanted a program specifically designed for writing novels, and he uses OS-X. Selling Scrivener is a sideline for him, and according to the website, he has no interest in porting it over to Windows.

Edited 2008-01-12 21:53 (UTC)

Re: do you think....

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Fascinating.

B

perfect music in the background

[identity profile] parrismcb.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
still a lovely heartbreaking song, isn't it? Did a Sandy orgy on New Year's - playing lots of fairport and then the Denny collection 'who knows where the times goes'.

Re: perfect music in the background

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I have quite a bit of Richard Thompson on my iTunes, which of course includes all the Fairport stuff... and yes, Sandy Denny had a wonderful voice!

[identity profile] madtruk.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
hehe...very nice. Give my regards to Capn DOS and Ms. TRS80...

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I never really knew Cap'n DOS or Ms. TRS80 except as names heard across a room. My head was turned by Ms. Apple when I first started looking at computers, and remained there.

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm just monogamous. After a brief fling with Wordstar, I moved in with Protext in 1985 and we've been together ever since.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you calling me a software slut? :-)

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I did my first two books in WordPerfect, and have done everything else in MS Word.

B

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
George (RR Martin) still uses Wordstar...

WordStar

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know they still made WordStar.

B
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[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard good things of yWriter, but it's Windows-based and I'm on a Mac.

yWriter

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I should look at it.

B

Re: yWriter

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely optimized for fiction. But I treat non-fiction as a narrative, so maybe it would work for me.

It would be hard to switch from MS-Word, though. I'm used to having a flat text editor.

B

[identity profile] pegkerr.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Let us know when your first anniversary comes up, because that's the Paper Anniversary.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Now that's apropos!

[identity profile] davidbcoe.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I was in a long term relationship with Word Perfect. We started up together when I was in grad school, and we stayed together through a dissertation and eight books. But eventually I found that as much as I loved her, I couldn't live with being ostracized. Everyone else was using Word; my editors and friends began to complain that they couldn't get past her formatting quirks. I just wanted to share files with others and she was holding me back. Now I'm with Word, and while I can't say that I'm happy, I do, at least, have friends....

Great entry. Very entertaining. I'm thinking of switching to mac with my next computer purchase, so I might give your program a try.

[identity profile] stevenagy.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for the misplaced reply, David.

I've used Macs since 88. Hopefully the labeling, outlining and keyword flexibility will sell me on Scrivener. So far, so good.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Switch! You won't regret it.

[identity profile] stevenagy.livejournal.com 2008-01-09 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still experimenting. Best time, as I'm starting a new project. I've used Word for most of the stuff I've written since 98. I like the keywords and labeling, as well as the split screen capabilities, which are things I've never found within Word.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't really played with the Keywords capability, but given that the current WIP is using a whole bunch of POV characters, I like that I can highlight all the section in one POV, click one button, and have them all together for quick reference. And I've used the split screen to great advantage already.

I'm really liking this program. I keep waiting for some annoyance to rise up and smack me in the face, but so far, it's all good.

[identity profile] stevenagy.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
One thing I've noted that you need to watch for is how you make a project. You want to make the binder folder first. I did that in the wrong order and I had to copy my keywords over to it rather than it assuming the ones from the enclosed document.

Keeping track of characters and shifting POV is a big plus. And being able to reference correct spellings of names ... big big plus in addition to the selection capability. I'm still in the 30-day trial, but so far so good. I'm just working on the synopsis so far. I'll test the exporting this weekend and see how well it moves over into Word for pagination.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I will say (the first negative!) that the test compilation I did of the WIP wasn't perfect from a formatting perspective -- I can see that after the manuscript is compiled, I'll have to go into Nisus and make some formatting changes. But that's a relatively minor issue.

[identity profile] stevenagy.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
As long as you're ale to preserve formatting, such as underlining where you're noting italic, I'll be fine with applying styles and formatting. I tried to set up the editor window so it matches the style I use in Word, as well as noting the line and word count I expect so I'm pretty close to my current page counts.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Underlining, bolding, etc. all came through, as did page breaks once I figured out how Scrivener wanted me to apply them. It was all minor tweakings -- and it may be that all the tweaks can be done through the Preferences panel in Scrivener itself to get a better "fit" for my particular manuscript style. I need to play with it some more.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems optimized for long things, like books. Does it make any sense at all to switch for something like 1000-word essays?

B

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect not. Scrivener's assets are its ability to break up a long work into discrete chunks, and then reform/move/re-link them as needed. For instance, in the current WIP (as with A MAGIC OF TWILIGHT) I use several POV characters. I can quickly link all the POV segment for one character for easy reference/writing (or use the split screen to view two segments at once and edit either one). I can also dump all my reference stuff into the project (web pages, maps, etc) and access them with one click, instead of having to switch between programs.

It would work fine for an essay, too... but if you're not pulling stuff from here-and-there and making back-and-forth references, an essay's probably short and uncomplicated enough that a word processor might be as effective. OTOH, the Full Screen mode (which blanks out everything else except the text itself) is great for forcing concentration on the task at hand.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What interests me for book-length projects is the ability to have notes and whatnot in the background.

For non-fiction, there's lots and lots of background.

B

Just downloaded it...

[identity profile] cfgwebgeek.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
--and installed it a few days ago, but haven't even had a chance to try the tutorial yet. After that, I plan to load in something that's been languishing for a long time & see how things go.

She seems rather popular already. (One of the writers for Spooks [known as MI-5 here in the US] sang her praises.) Hope she's got lotsa sisters...

Re: Just downloaded it...

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"Hope she's got lotsa sisters..."

I'm sure they'll make more as needed! :-)

[identity profile] smofbabe.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for reminding me why I love hanging around with writers - this entry was great. (And I still sigh with longing for the XyWrite of my youth...)

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad you liked it!

And I remember the name XyWrite, though I never had a chance to play with it.

[identity profile] hrimcealde.livejournal.com 2008-01-10 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
wow. that does sound sexy.

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
After some time using it now, I still think it's sexy. A definite keeper!

[identity profile] tardistenant.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You intrigue me. I've been with MS Word a long, long time. But I too was getting fed up with what a qvetch she was, always sticking her nose in and trying to tell me what I was doing. But a lot of that went away when I abandoned the Microsoft world (o happy day) and started using Word for Mac. (I just didn't like Applewriter.)

But you've always been a Mac user. And yet you still felt Word was controlling you?

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-01-14 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so intriguing... :-)

But yes, even on the Mac MS Word is a bloated hog of a program and I find the interface ugly, unpleasant, and intrusive. My opinion only, of course...